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Receiver sensitivity BER. The lower the better?
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Boki
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:26 am    Post subject: Receiver sensitivity BER. The lower the better? Reply with quote

Hi All,

In communication, the BER is the lower the better, right?

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Boki.
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Joel Kolstad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:58 am    Post subject: Re: Receiver sensitivity BER. The lower the better? Reply with quote

"Boki" <bokiteam@ms21.hinet.net> wrote in message
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In communication, the BER is the lower the better, right?

Generally, yes -- BER = Bit Error Rate, and fewer errors are better.

Most real systems are designed to operate with a given BER or better, so
from a certain point of view achieving a BER well in excess of what's
necessary is most likely a waste of resources, but no one's ever going to
complain if you can deliver a better BER without spending more money.
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Boki
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:50 am    Post subject: Re: Receiver sensitivity BER. The lower the better? Reply with quote

Joel Kolstad 寫道:

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"Boki" <bokiteam@ms21.hinet.net> wrote in message
news:1153358762.002278.92910@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
In communication, the BER is the lower the better, right?

Generally, yes -- BER = Bit Error Rate, and fewer errors are better.

Most real systems are designed to operate with a given BER or better, so
from a certain point of view achieving a BER well in excess of what's
necessary is most likely a waste of resources, but no one's ever going to
complain if you can deliver a better BER without spending more money.

How about Bluetooth?

When I get BER = 0.01% ,so I reduce my power to make BER close to 0.1%

so I can get less power consumption, does this make sense? ( I don't
know answer )

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Boki.
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mike
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Receiver sensitivity BER. The lower the better? Reply with quote

"Boki" <bokiteam@ms21.hinet.net> wrote in message
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Hi All,

In communication, the BER is the lower the better, right?

Nope. The optimum is best, and the system designers have to decide how to
define optimum.

-- Mike --
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Joel Kolstad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Receiver sensitivity BER. The lower the better? Reply with quote

Hi Boki,

"Boki" <bokiteam@ms21.hinet.net> wrote in message
news:1153381823.655868.55620@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
"How about Bluetooth?

When I get BER = 0.01% ,so I reduce my power to make BER close to 0.1%

so I can get less power consumption, does this make sense?"

I don't know the particulars of Bluetooth, but from Googling around it looks
like the spec says that you are supposed to achieve a BER of 0.1%. Hence,
*so long as you can achieve that BER at the distance required*, saving power
looks like a win.

If you build your hardware such that it has this "power-save" mode
available, you can always make this issue their problem by telling them you
want them to drop into power-save mode whenever the BER is 0.1% or lower,
and otherwise run at the higher power -- this is a very common technique.

---Joel
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