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ml
electronics forum beginner


Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:31 am    Post subject: bad liebert ups Reply with quote

i got a 6kv liebert ups, trips the dc breaker on testing fail to backup

never worked on a ups before, i can say the ac side seems to be ok,
and the charger seems ok as the batteries stay floated /charged front
pannel lcd seems to work

any clues what might be a good path to start on or perhaps someone might
know what these ups typically blow?


thanks
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Mike Berger
electronics forum Guru Wannabe


Joined: 06 Jun 2005
Posts: 283

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: bad liebert ups Reply with quote

I've never seen a Liebert fail! Since it trips the DC
breaker, and assuming the batteries and float voltage
are ok, then the inverter is probably drawing too much
current -- maybe shorted output transistors.

ml wrote:
Quote:
i got a 6kv liebert ups, trips the dc breaker on testing fail to backup

never worked on a ups before, i can say the ac side seems to be ok,
and the charger seems ok as the batteries stay floated /charged front
pannel lcd seems to work

any clues what might be a good path to start on or perhaps someone might
know what these ups typically blow?


thanks
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ml
electronics forum beginner


Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:12 pm    Post subject: Re: bad liebert ups Reply with quote

In article <e9lp91$tr3$2@roundup.shout.net>,
M Berger <berger@shout.net> wrote:

Quote:
I've never seen a Liebert fail! Since it trips the DC
breaker, and assuming the batteries and float voltage
are ok, then the inverter is probably drawing too much
current -- maybe shorted output transistors.

ml wrote:
i got a 6kv liebert ups, trips the dc breaker on testing fail to backup

never worked on a ups before, i can say the ac side seems to be ok,
and the charger seems ok as the batteries stay floated /charged front
pannel lcd seems to work

any clues what might be a good path to start on or perhaps someone might
know what these ups typically blow?


thanks

yeah thanks v much, usually they are pretty good, wish i had the
manual, at first i figured perhaps i didn't set it up right, but the
place that discarded it said the repair guys said it wasn't worth
repairing. the batteries for sure are fully charged and float ok

if it's not getting ac, it won't ever power it just shuts off, fooling
w/the pannel trying to 'turn it on' dc testing etc just trips the
breaker(dc)

appreciate the tips i'll poke around a bit more
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Jim Land
electronics forum beginner


Joined: 06 Jun 2006
Posts: 46

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Re: bad liebert ups Reply with quote

ml <m@di.net> wrote in news:m-279619.05320819072006@news.verizon.net:

Quote:
i got a 6kv liebert ups, trips the dc breaker on testing fail to
backup

never worked on a ups before, i can say the ac side seems to be ok,
and the charger seems ok as the batteries stay floated /charged front
pannel lcd seems to work

any clues what might be a good path to start on or perhaps someone
might
know what these ups typically blow?

Most UPS's are pretty simple.
1. AC line voltage flows into the UPS and straight to the load.
2. AC line voltage also charges storage batteries.
3. When AC line voltage fails, an AC inverter starts up
4. AC inverter draws DC power from the storage batteries
5. AC inverter delivers AC power to the load
6. When AC line voltage comes back on, go back to 1.

So you have some pretty simple systems to analyze and troubleshoot.

You say the batteries seem to be fully charged, which probably means the
charging circuit is working and maybe even the batteries are OK.

You say the DC breaker trips and it doesn't put out any power under
backup mode. So you've isolated the problem to the DC wiring and the
input of the inverter circuit. Try disconnecting some cables and see if
you can isolate the short circuit or low-resistance circuit that's
drawing too much current. If it turns out to be the inverter, take it
out, open it up, and start looking for shorted components.

Good luck!
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