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FSMüller
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Manufacturer of RF-connector and RF-cable for DAB and Digital TV Reply with quote

If every company manufacturing anything would send their catalogs to the
appropriate newsgroups, the newsgroups wold be full of trash and
rendered unusable.
PLEASE STOP THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frank


WILSON LI schrieb:
Quote:
*Dear Sales Department/ Purchase Department,*



*Manufacturer of RF-connector and RF-cable for DAB and Digital TV** *

**

*SKY GAIN* is an electronics and cable assembly manufacturer and we have
been established for more than 30 years. We provide the full range of
*high frequency RF CONNECTORS, CABLES AND ASSEMBLE*, with reliable
price, best quality and strong supply and skillful technical support.
Especially, the *
http://skygainhk.ebigchina.com/cws.phtml?page=pr&cid=227227&view=&tlang=en&StyleID=3&ColorID=6>F-type,
BNC, TNC, IEC, RCA, Antenna, Coaxial / RF signal connectors and RF-cable
assembles <http://skygainhk.ebigchina.com/sdp/227227/4/pl-880682.html>*.
http://skygainhk.ebigchina.com/sdp/227227/4/pl-880682.html

Please feel free to contact us for further enquiry. Thank you for your
kind attention.




*Head Quarter: Taipei, Taiwan.*

*China Factory: GuangDong Province, China.*

*HK & Overseas Office: Shatin, Hong Kong.*

*Quality Certification: ISO 9001-2000 certification
http://skygainhk.ebigchina.com/sdp/227227/4/cp-880684.html>. *

*Existing customer: V-TECH, SONY, THOMSON, PHILIPS, LG, ACER and etc. *







Best regards,
*Wilson Li *(Email: wilson @ skygain . com . hk
mailto:skygainhk@yahoo.com.hk>)
*Sales & Marketing Department*


Sky Gain International Electronic Limited
HK Office: Unit 1609-1612 Tower 2, Grand Central Plaza, 138 Sha Tin
Rural Committee Road, Sha Tin, N.T. Hong Kong
Tel: 852-31427333
Fax: 852-31427999
E-Mail: wilson @ skygain . com . hk <mailto:skygainhk@yahoo.com.hk
Web Site: http://www. skygain . com . hk
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Alex Gibson
electronics forum beginner


Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Goot Soldering Station Reply with quote

"dmm" <dmmilne_REMOVE_@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:5fmaa1515ithmf1hd995093e70ns061geh@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:23:41 +1000, "Alex Gibson" <news@alxx.net> wrote:

snip

Hakko or Xytronic both very good and can get spares easily.

Have a Xytronic 988D sitting on my desk , has worked flawlessly.

For tip cleaning , the dry type tip cleaners (look like left overs from
turning copper)
work well and avoid needing a wet sponge or replacement sponges.

Alex


Alex, does the solder waste stick to the dry tip cleaners? Is it easy
to clean the solder from the "swarf", ie shaking it?

Yes. They clean up pretty well.
Depends how much excess solder you use.

Alex
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Art
electronics forum Guru


Joined: 03 May 2005
Posts: 331

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: Manufacturer of RF-connector and RF-cable for DAB and Digital TV Reply with quote

Agreed! Catalog material and reference data sheets have their appropriate
place, on the bench, or web site, when the tech or designer wishes to
compare, select, purchase, Etc particular components to fulfill their
respective needs. Reference to these sources are welcome but in the proper
forum. Not particularly as a stereo-type of 'Spam' in N/Gs. IMHO
"FSMüller" <mueller@mrt.uka.de> wrote in message
news:d88vdc$ks9$1@news2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de...
Quote:
If every company manufacturing anything would send their catalogs to the
appropriate newsgroups, the newsgroups wold be full of trash and rendered
unusable.
PLEASE STOP THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frank


WILSON LI schrieb:
*Dear Sales Department/ Purchase Department,*

*Manufacturer of RF-connector and RF-cable for DAB and Digital TV** *

** *SKY GAIN* is an electronics and cable assembly manufacturer and we
have been established for more than 30 years. We provide the full range
of *high frequency RF CONNECTORS, CABLES AND ASSEMBLE*, with reliable
price, best quality and strong supply and skillful technical support.
Especially, the *
http://skygainhk.ebigchina.com/cws.phtml?page=pr&cid=227227&view=&tlang=en&StyleID=3&ColorID=6>F-type,
BNC, TNC, IEC, RCA, Antenna, Coaxial / RF signal connectors and RF-cable
assembles <http://skygainhk.ebigchina.com/sdp/227227/4/pl-880682.html>*.
http://skygainhk.ebigchina.com/sdp/227227/4/pl-880682.html

Please feel free to contact us for further enquiry. Thank you for your
kind attention.
*Head Quarter: Taipei, Taiwan.*

*China Factory: GuangDong Province, China.*

*HK & Overseas Office: Shatin, Hong Kong.*

*Quality Certification: ISO 9001-2000 certification
http://skygainhk.ebigchina.com/sdp/227227/4/cp-880684.html>. *

*Existing customer: V-TECH, SONY, THOMSON, PHILIPS, LG, ACER and etc.
*

Best regards,
*Wilson Li *(Email: wilson @ skygain . com . hk
mailto:skygainhk@yahoo.com.hk>)
*Sales & Marketing Department*


Sky Gain International Electronic Limited
HK Office: Unit 1609-1612 Tower 2, Grand Central Plaza, 138 Sha Tin Rural
Committee Road, Sha Tin, N.T. Hong Kong
Tel: 852-31427333
Fax: 852-31427999
E-Mail: wilson @ skygain . com . hk <mailto:skygainhk@yahoo.com.hk
Web Site: http://www. skygain . com . hk
http://skygainhk.ebigchina.com/> or http://skygainhk.ebigchina.com/

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bob@jfcl.com
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Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: MIDI Decoder Chip? Reply with quote

P.S. Something like the Micronas MAS3505G is an example of what I'm
talking about

http://www.micronas.com/products/documentation/consumer/mas35xyg/index.php

EXCEPT a) I don't know of any retail source for this chip in unit
quantities, and b) it's only available in a BGA package which I
couldn't solder even if I had one!

Thanks again,
Bob
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bob@jfcl.com
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Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: MIDI Decoder Chip? Reply with quote

P.S. Something like the Micronas MAS3505G is an example of what I'm
talking about

http://www.micronas.com/products/documentation/consumer/mas35xyg/index.php

EXCEPT a) I don't know of any retail source for this chip in unit
quantities, and b) it's only available in a BGA package which I
couldn't solder even if I had one!

Thanks again,
Bob
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bob@jfcl.com
electronics forum beginner


Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: MIDI Decoder Chip? Reply with quote

P.S. Something like the Micronas MAS3505G is an example of what I'm
talking about

http://www.micronas.com/products/documentation/consumer/mas35xyg/index.php

EXCEPT a) I don't know of any retail source for this chip in unit
quantities, and b) it's only available in a BGA package which I
couldn't solder even if I had one!

Thanks again,
Bob
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bob@jfcl.com
electronics forum beginner


Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: MIDI Decoder Chip? Reply with quote

P.S. Something like the Micronas MAS3505G is an example of what I'm
talking about

http://www.micronas.com/products/documentation/consumer/mas35xyg/index.php

EXCEPT a) I don't know of any retail source for this chip in unit
quantities, and b) it's only available in a BGA package which I
couldn't solder even if I had one!

Thanks again,
Bob
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John Bokma
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Joined: 17 May 2005
Posts: 41

PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: LAST CALL - ELECTRONIC PARTS CHEAP - DENVER AREA PICKUP Reply with quote

Mama Bear wrote:

Quote:
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Sam Goldwasser
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: LAST CALL - ELECTRONIC PARTS CHEAP - DENVER AREA PICKUP Reply with quote

"Frank Bemelman" <f.bemelmanq@xs4all.invalid.nl> writes:

Quote:
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bericht news:d8p39t019tl@drn.newsguy.com...
Bob wrote...

Please, promise us this will really be the last call.

It's gotta be, he said he'd throw the stuff out last night.
Presumably there's a She Who Must Be Obeyed behind it.

There's always eBay. You can sell used dirt on eBay. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: LAST CALL - ELECTRONIC PARTS CHEAP - DENVER AREA PICKUP MamaBear@lakewoodcolorado.net Reply with quote

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I HAVE BOXES OF PARTS THAT I EITHER WANT TO SELL CHEAP OR WILL HAVE TO
THROW OUT TONIGHT! LAST CALL.

BOXES OF UNUSED CAPS: 1500 UF 100V
BOARDS WITH NEW COMPONENTS ON THEM - NEVER USED
4K DRAM CHIPS FROM THE 70'S - NEW ON STATIC PADS - 80 OF THEM
BUY IT ALL TOGETHER - MAKE ME AN OFFER OR IT ALL GOES TO THE DUMP
TONIGHT!



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Remove the XXZ spam spoofing.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: LAST CALL - ELECTRONIC PARTS CHEAP - DENVER AREA PICKUP MamaBear@lakewoodcolorado.net Reply with quote

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:49:59 GMT Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in
Message id: <1118789399.a73b4b94324df355a05b24cde39cc414@teranews>:

Quote:
Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote :

I HAVE BOXES OF PARTS THAT I EITHER WANT TO SELL CHEAP OR WILL HAVE TO
THROW OUT TONIGHT! LAST CALL.

BOXES OF UNUSED CAPS: 1500 UF 100V
BOARDS WITH NEW COMPONENTS ON THEM - NEVER USED
4K DRAM CHIPS FROM THE 70'S - NEW ON STATIC PADS - 80 OF THEM
BUY IT ALL TOGETHER - MAKE ME AN OFFER OR IT ALL GOES TO THE DUMP
TONIGHT!



OOPS, forgot to include a contact: MamaBear@XXZlakewoodcolorado.net
Remove the XXZ spam spoofing.

Heh. A caps-lock moron spammer who doesn't want to be spammed - that's
fucking rich. I hope you don't mind if I add another news group...

Bon apetite!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: LAST CALL - ELECTRONIC PARTS CHEAP - DENVER AREA PICKUP MamaBear@lakewoodcolorado.net Reply with quote

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Message id: <1118789399.a73b4b94324df355a05b24cde39cc414@teranews>:

Quote:
Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote :

I HAVE BOXES OF PARTS THAT I EITHER WANT TO SELL CHEAP OR WILL HAVE TO
THROW OUT TONIGHT! LAST CALL.

BOXES OF UNUSED CAPS: 1500 UF 100V
BOARDS WITH NEW COMPONENTS ON THEM - NEVER USED
4K DRAM CHIPS FROM THE 70'S - NEW ON STATIC PADS - 80 OF THEM
BUY IT ALL TOGETHER - MAKE ME AN OFFER OR IT ALL GOES TO THE DUMP
TONIGHT!



OOPS, forgot to include a contact: MamaBear@XXZlakewoodcolorado.net
Remove the XXZ spam spoofing.

Heh. A caps-lock moron spammer who doesn't want to be spammed - that's
fucking rich. I hope you don't mind if I add another news group...

Bon apetite!

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Frank Moe
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: mos transistor modelling Reply with quote

Hi,
take about 10% of the worst case variation as the relative variation
across the chip as long as the chip is reasonably siced.
Frank
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Wolfgang Mahringer
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Joined: 27 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:43 am    Post subject: Re: TLC271 input voltage Reply with quote

Hi Franz,

Franz3 wrote:

Quote:
I have a question : what is the highest input voltage for TLC271 by
Udd = 5V? If voltage is higher as 5V - can this create a defect IC ?

You should really read the datasheet. It states clearly:
Absolute Maximum Rating:
Input Voltage (any input) -0.3V to Vdd

You should take measures to prevent inputs going higher
than Vdd or below -0.3V. Else you are asking for problems.

HTH
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Dave Platt
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Joined: 24 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: Substitutes for GSC T18C 1500uF 6.3V caps Reply with quote

Quote:
Can someone recommend a subst for this 1500uF 6.3V electrolytic
capacitor:

I'd probably recommend something like a Panasonic FC or FM series
capacitor - 105-degree-C rated, designed for switching power supply
applications.

Quote:
GSC
[RE] 105°C
T18C

Radial pins, 200 mil pitch (apparently).

I'd guess that's a 5 mm pitch?

Panasonic FM series has a 6.3 WVDC 1500 uF cap, 10 mm diameter, 20 mm
high, 5 mm lead pitch - their part number is EEU-FM0J152, Digikey
part number P12343-ND, Digi-Key price $0.59 each.

You might want to go up to a EEU-FM0J222L, P12344-ND at $0.61 each -
same diameter, same pitch, same voltage, 2200 uF, 25 mm high.

FC-series equivalents (not quite so good a set of ratings) are
EEU-FC0J152 and EEU-FC0J222.

Quote:
This is for a Soltek SL-65KV2 motherboard that just died. Two
caps swelled up and two others actually started leaking
electrolyte.

Don't you just love having to suffer the consequences of somebody
else's incompetent industrial espionage?

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